Re: [Sydney-Oracle] I need you help. Odd performance difference comparing 4k data block size and 8k databases

From: Yury Velikanov
Sent on: Friday, June 4, 2010 3:57 PM
> could you please provide also all init parameters for the databases
> in attached file?
not a problem at all (see attachment)

PS The 8kb DB is having Standby DB. Not sure if it makes any difference :)

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On 4 June 2010 15:10, Andrey Goryunov <[address removed]> wrote:
> Yuri,
>
> could you please provide also all init parameters for the databases
> in attached file?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrey
>
> On 4 June 2010 13:33, Yury Velikanov <[address removed]> wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Just to follow up on the issue.
>> The investigation is still in process. I work on that as time permits
>> (as client doesn't complain and have other priorities). However this
>> definitely looks like a technical challenge. And who but us Oracle
>> DBAs like technical challenges :)
>>
>> Last thing that I did was to compare all LATCHes and STATs in between
>> EXACTLY the same executions on both databases (4k and 8k) on that
>> particular server.
>> The statistics doesn't revile anything specific but additional
>> confirmation that 8k database spends 2-3 time more time on that
>> particular host to execute the test.
>>
>> I have executed the same test on other servers (11GR2 to make it a
>> close as possible to that case) and received the expected results. 8k
>> databases over performed 4k databases by up to 10%. This specific
>> issue is related to that particular setup only.
>>
>> This case additional justification for the simple CPU test execution
>> on your systems (databases) and comparison with other platforms.
>> I found in that cases that one of the DBes have weird configuration.
>> Addressing that issue we potentiality can improve the overall
>> application performance 3 times :)
>> The only problem is to find what is wrong in that particular case.
>>
>> Next action that I have in mind is as suggested to create a 8k cache
>> pool  in 4k database, create 8k tablespace and run the test to compare
>> the execution time. This test will allow us to find out is it a
>> particular DB setup (8k DB) in charge of it or HW (Intel(R) Xeon(R)
>> CPU X5550 / cache) and 4K/8K block issue.
>>
>> Stay tuned and see you tonight,
>>
>> Yury Velikanov
>> Oracle [Apps] DBA
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>> On 26 May 2010 14:40, Nuno Pinto do Souto
>> <[address removed]> wrote:
>>> Bugger, I don't have access to any RHLinux system at the moment...
>>> A couple of things to check, from a vague memory:
>>> 1- What file system block size for each db
>>> 2- Are datafiles for all dbs on same file system
>>> 3- What is the value of filesystemio_options for each db.
>>> 4- In sqlplus, what does this produce on each db:
>>> show parameter priority
>>> 5- Check and compare SGA memory-related sizes for each db.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Nuno Pinto do Souto
>>> DBA Team, Australia/NZ
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [address removed]
>>> [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Yury Velikanov
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:18 AM
>>> To: [address removed]
>>> Subject: [Sydney-Oracle] I need you help. Odd performance difference
>>> comparing 4k data block size and 8k databases
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I need any idea that may came you your head to find out the reason for
>>> the following problem. Please do not hesitate to through any
>>> suggestions and I will  check those for you.
>>> This is a super-duper new Dell server, 11GR2, Red Hat Enterprise Linux
>>> Server release 5.4.
>>>
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